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COCO Question
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Bill Gunshannon
2010-03-23 19:13:14 UTC
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Does anyone here know where I might be able to find prototyping boards
that would plug into the expansion slot of a Tandy Color Computer?
I have been reading lately and have gotten interested in looking at
designing an IDE controller for the COCO. I actually think it could
be done fairly easy, at least for use with OS/9.

bill
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Stephen H. Fischer
2010-03-23 20:44:27 UTC
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Hi,

Want to buy one (or TWO)? I have them on the shelf.

They were produced years ago. Glenside (Chicago) computer club, hosts of the
annual "Last CoCo Fest" coming up soon.

You are out of touch with the CoCo today.

We now use PC's for our floppy and hard drive storage.

It's called "DriveWire". One cable from the CoCo's serial port. The latest
even has Epson printer support.

"prototyping boards", I think someone said there were some on EBay just
recently.

SHF
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Does anyone here know where I might be able to find prototyping boards
that would plug into the expansion slot of a Tandy Color Computer?
I have been reading lately and have gotten interested in looking at
designing an IDE controller for the COCO. I actually think it could
be done fairly easy, at least for use with OS/9.
bill
Hi,

It has been quite a long time since a message has been posted to
bit.listserv.coco telling anyone interested that we have moved our
discussions elsewhere.

http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco

Has information about the "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" list.

The list is echoed to "gmane.comp.hardware.tandy.coco" on the
"news.gmane.org" server.

Go To

http://news.gmane.org/

And enter "CoCo" into the search box and you will find the CoCo list

"47007 gmane.comp.hardware.tandy.coco Tandy Color Computer (CoCo) List"

There are several Yahoo groups also.

The number of web sites is amazing including: http://www.coco3.com/

SHF
Bill Gunshannon
2010-03-24 00:09:29 UTC
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Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Hi,
Want to buy one (or TWO)? I have them on the shelf.
Depending on the price, yes.
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
They were produced years ago. Glenside (Chicago) computer club, hosts of the
annual "Last CoCo Fest" coming up soon.
You are out of touch with the CoCo today.
Pretty much. Most of my classic computers are packed away at the moment.
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
We now use PC's for our floppy and hard drive storage.
It's called "DriveWire". One cable from the CoCo's serial port. The latest
even has Epson printer support.
I have given thought to that. But it seems it would be rather slow.
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
"prototyping boards", I think someone said there were some on EBay just
recently.
Sorry, I don't do eBay.

bill
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Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
Stephen H. Fischer
2010-03-24 02:09:32 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Hi,
Want to buy one (or TWO)? I have them on the shelf.
Depending on the price, yes.
That was a joke, while I do have two in the original box, I think that it is
best that all my electronics be recycled after I am recycled.

If you have a specific need and are willing to join us on maltedmedia and
present a convincing argument that cannot be solved by another path, then I
will reconsider.
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
They were produced years ago. Glenside (Chicago) computer club, hosts of the
annual "Last CoCo Fest" coming up soon.
You are out of touch with the CoCo today.
Pretty much. Most of my classic computers are packed away at the moment.
Lots of people on the "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" have done
this also. Now there are people trying to buy what they sold decades ago.
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
We now use PC's for our floppy and hard drive storage.
It's called "DriveWire". One cable from the CoCo's serial port. The latest
even has Epson printer support.
I have given thought to that. But it seems it would be rather slow.
If you are thinking about software written in 1985, then you would be right.

This software has been written in the last few years and currently in Java
by some very good programmers.

"Super fast 115,200 bps on a CoCo 3, 57,600 bps on a CoCo 2, 38,400 bps on a
CoCo 1."

Want to try it out? As you spoke of designing a board a cable should be very
easy. That's all you need to build.

I think I may have a cable ready to go built two decades at least ago. I
downloaded all the software and when I get the time I will try it.

http://www.frontiernet.net/~mmarlette/Cloud-9/Software/DriveWire3.html
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
"prototyping boards", I think someone said there were some on EBay just
recently.
Sorry, I don't do eBay.
A listing on eBay was just noted on the list for a "TRS-80 Color Computer &
Dragon 32K Blank Cartridge" as I was typing this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TRS-80-Color-Computer-Dragon-32K-Blank-Cartridge_W0QQitemZ220568843153QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335aed7391
Post by Bill Gunshannon
bill
Bill Gunshannon
2010-03-24 15:54:34 UTC
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Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Hi,
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Hi,
Want to buy one (or TWO)? I have them on the shelf.
Depending on the price, yes.
That was a joke, while I do have two in the original box, I think that it is
best that all my electronics be recycled after I am recycled.
As is your right. I was just looking to see if someone had some
floating around. I have been pointed in a good direction and will
continue to pursue this as time allows.
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
If you have a specific need and are willing to join us on maltedmedia and
present a convincing argument that cannot be solved by another path, then I
will reconsider.
I am not intrerested in trying to convert anyone to my beliefs. I also
have limited time for most of these projects (which is why I said all my
stuff, which includes a lot more than just COCO's is all packed up at
the moment). It was just that I saw a project for hooking up an IDE disk
to another computer with a minimum of hardware and thought it might work
equally well for the COCO. And being as I have some COCO's......
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
They were produced years ago. Glenside (Chicago) computer club, hosts of the
annual "Last CoCo Fest" coming up soon.
You are out of touch with the CoCo today.
Pretty much. Most of my classic computers are packed away at the moment.
Lots of people on the "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" have done
this also. Now there are people trying to buy what they sold decades ago.
I used to be on a COCO List but I am pretty sure it died long ago. It
was run out of Purdue or Rutgers. I don't sell, I collect and sometimes
I even buy. Mostly I miss those days of working with computers that
were actually fun. Retirement looms closer every day and then, my time
will be mine!!!
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
We now use PC's for our floppy and hard drive storage.
It's called "DriveWire". One cable from the CoCo's serial port. The latest
even has Epson printer support.
I have given thought to that. But it seems it would be rather slow.
If you are thinking about software written in 1985, then you would be right.
Wasn't thinking software, just the data channel. Although I would imagine
it could easily be as fast if not faster than the old ST506's we started
with.
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
This software has been written in the last few years and currently in Java
by some very good programmers.
"Super fast 115,200 bps on a CoCo 3, 57,600 bps on a CoCo 2, 38,400 bps on a
CoCo 1."
Want to try it out? As you spoke of designing a board a cable should be very
easy. That's all you need to build.
I think I may have a cable ready to go built two decades at least ago. I
downloaded all the software and when I get the time I will try it.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mmarlette/Cloud-9/Software/DriveWire3.html
I will definitely take a look. Could meet my needs on a number of small
systems I still mess about with that never had easily available hard drives.

Looks like time to visit Cloud-9 again. The last time I was there just
about everything I was interested with was out of production. Glad to
see they are still around. I always thought they were a great outfit.
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
"prototyping boards", I think someone said there were some on EBay just
recently.
Sorry, I don't do eBay.
A listing on eBay was just noted on the list for a "TRS-80 Color Computer &
Dragon 32K Blank Cartridge" as I was typing this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TRS-80-Color-Computer-Dragon-32K-Blank-Cartridge_W0QQitemZ220568843153QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335aed7391
Thanks for the info. Now, you'll be sure and let me know if you
see some free time come up on eBay as that seems to be what I need
the most. :-)

bill
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Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
***@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
Stephen H. Fischer
2010-03-24 16:41:54 UTC
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Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Hi,
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Hi,
Want to buy one (or TWO)? I have them on the shelf.
Depending on the price, yes.
That was a joke, while I do have two in the original box, I think that it is
best that all my electronics be recycled after I am recycled.
As is your right. I was just looking to see if someone had some
floating around. I have been pointed in a good direction and will
continue to pursue this as time allows.
I just do not like "Idiot Designed Equipment" where the interface was
selected using a hatchet. And there are so many better ways now on offer for
the CoCo. I signed up for two just to help allow the project to break even.
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
If you have a specific need and are willing to join us on maltedmedia and
present a convincing argument that cannot be solved by another path, then I
will reconsider.
I am not intrerested in trying to convert anyone to my beliefs. I also
have limited time for most of these projects (which is why I said all my
stuff, which includes a lot more than just COCO's is all packed up at
the moment). It was just that I saw a project for hooking up an IDE disk
to another computer with a minimum of hardware and thought it might work
equally well for the COCO. And being as I have some COCO's......
I think that the schematic is on line, others may be more willing to send
you lots of trouble and pain as the IDE board is no longer in their desires
to use.
Many ideas have been shot down by better ones to the benefit of many people.
Post by Bill Gunshannon
I used to be on a COCO List but I am pretty sure it died long ago. It
was run out of Purdue or Rutgers. I don't sell, I collect and sometimes
I even buy. Mostly I miss those days of working with computers that
were actually fun. Retirement looms closer every day and then, my time
will be mine!!!
It was Princeton and the "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" is the
same group. Bit.List.CoCo was spammed so badly by a sick individual whose
intent was to destroy the group that a member stepped up to move us behind a
shield. We are very happy and very much alive.

If you do not wish to sign up, try gmane's web interface to the group. It
has the same traffic.
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
We now use PC's for our floppy and hard drive storage.
It's called "DriveWire". One cable from the CoCo's serial port. The latest
even has Epson printer support.
I have given thought to that. But it seems it would be rather slow.
If you are thinking about software written in 1985, then you would be right.
Wasn't thinking software, just the data channel. Although I would imagine
it could easily be as fast if not faster than the old ST506's we started
with.
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
This software has been written in the last few years and currently in Java
by some very good programmers.
"Super fast 115,200 bps on a CoCo 3, 57,600 bps on a CoCo 2, 38,400 bps on a
CoCo 1."
Want to try it out? As you spoke of designing a board a cable should be very
easy. That's all you need to build.
I think I may have a cable ready to go built two decades at least ago. I
downloaded all the software and when I get the time I will try it.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mmarlette/Cloud-9/Software/DriveWire3.html
I will definitely take a look. Could meet my needs on a number of small
systems I still mess about with that never had easily available hard drives.
Looks like time to visit Cloud-9 again. The last time I was there just
about everything I was interested with was out of production. Glad to
see they are still around. I always thought they were a great outfit.
I neglected to say that the Drivewire software is FREE!

The board on EBay would be the place to put the rom ($10) for faster loading
than using a tape recorder which I will be trying.

Roger is also selling boards using a 6551 that was designed for an wireless
connection using a Bluetooth module that went out of production.
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
"prototyping boards", I think someone said there were some on EBay just
recently.
Sorry, I don't do eBay.
A listing on eBay was just noted on the list for a "TRS-80 Color Computer &
Dragon 32K Blank Cartridge" as I was typing this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TRS-80-Color-Computer-Dragon-32K-Blank-Cartridge_W0QQitemZ220568843153QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335aed7391
Thanks for the info. Now, you'll be sure and let me know if you
see some free time come up on eBay as that seems to be what I need
the most. :-)
bill
Stephen H. Fischer
2010-03-31 03:42:49 UTC
Permalink
Hi,

Brian Goers Glenside Color
Computer Club URL
Glenside Vice-President of Special Events
http://GlensideCCC.com

IDE Boards are available.
Show cost $45.00 The 19th Annual
"LAST" Chicago CoCoFEST!
Includes items in the picture Will be held MAY 15
& 16, 2010!
Holiday Inn &
Suites in Elgin.

The dates for the 19th Annual "LAST" Chicago CoCoFEST! have been
secured.

SHF
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Hi,
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Hi,
Want to buy one (or TWO)? I have them on the shelf.
Depending on the price, yes.
That was a joke, while I do have two in the original box, I think that it is
best that all my electronics be recycled after I am recycled.
As is your right. I was just looking to see if someone had some
floating around. I have been pointed in a good direction and will
continue to pursue this as time allows.
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
If you have a specific need and are willing to join us on maltedmedia and
present a convincing argument that cannot be solved by another path, then I
will reconsider.
I am not intrerested in trying to convert anyone to my beliefs. I also
have limited time for most of these projects (which is why I said all my
stuff, which includes a lot more than just COCO's is all packed up at
the moment). It was just that I saw a project for hooking up an IDE disk
to another computer with a minimum of hardware and thought it might work
equally well for the COCO. And being as I have some COCO's......
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
They were produced years ago. Glenside (Chicago) computer club, hosts
of
the
annual "Last CoCo Fest" coming up soon.
You are out of touch with the CoCo today.
Pretty much. Most of my classic computers are packed away at the moment.
Lots of people on the "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" have done
this also. Now there are people trying to buy what they sold decades ago.
I used to be on a COCO List but I am pretty sure it died long ago. It
was run out of Purdue or Rutgers. I don't sell, I collect and sometimes
I even buy. Mostly I miss those days of working with computers that
were actually fun. Retirement looms closer every day and then, my time
will be mine!!!
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
We now use PC's for our floppy and hard drive storage.
It's called "DriveWire". One cable from the CoCo's serial port. The latest
even has Epson printer support.
I have given thought to that. But it seems it would be rather slow.
If you are thinking about software written in 1985, then you would be right.
Wasn't thinking software, just the data channel. Although I would imagine
it could easily be as fast if not faster than the old ST506's we started
with.
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
This software has been written in the last few years and currently in Java
by some very good programmers.
"Super fast 115,200 bps on a CoCo 3, 57,600 bps on a CoCo 2, 38,400 bps on a
CoCo 1."
Want to try it out? As you spoke of designing a board a cable should be very
easy. That's all you need to build.
I think I may have a cable ready to go built two decades at least ago. I
downloaded all the software and when I get the time I will try it.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mmarlette/Cloud-9/Software/DriveWire3.html
I will definitely take a look. Could meet my needs on a number of small
systems I still mess about with that never had easily available hard drives.
Looks like time to visit Cloud-9 again. The last time I was there just
about everything I was interested with was out of production. Glad to
see they are still around. I always thought they were a great outfit.
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
Post by Bill Gunshannon
Post by Stephen H. Fischer
"prototyping boards", I think someone said there were some on EBay just
recently.
Sorry, I don't do eBay.
A listing on eBay was just noted on the list for a "TRS-80 Color Computer &
Dragon 32K Blank Cartridge" as I was typing this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TRS-80-Color-Computer-Dragon-32K-Blank-Cartridge_W0QQitemZ220568843153QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335aed7391
Thanks for the info. Now, you'll be sure and let me know if you
see some free time come up on eBay as that seems to be what I need
the most. :-)
bill
--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
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